EUCHARIST WINE / CHARAYAM !!!! - GIVEN AS GRAPE-JUICE

The following speaks volumes about Christian conduct in India.

Missionaries were initially hesitant (in the 18 & 19th centuries) to mention about the EUCHRIST WINE to the natives. Instead they mis-represented it as “GRAPE JUICE”. Thus they falsified wine as grape juice. Read the following account from the famous Abbe J.A.Dubois

Quote “In fact, even with our native Christians, we are careful to avoid all that might wound their feelings to no purpose, and increase in the public mind the jealousy and contempt entertained against them, and their religion. For example, as the use of intoxicating liquors is extremely odious to all well-bred Hindoos, and considered by them as a capital sin, when we explain verbally or in writing the sacrament of the eucharist, we are cautious not to say openly that the materials of this sacrament are bread and wine, or charayam, (literally, wine), which would prove too revolting to their feelings; we have therefore the precaution to soften this coarse term by a periphrasis, saying that the materials of the eucharist are wheaten bread, and the juice of the fine fruit called grape; which expressions become more palatable to their taste.”

P. 34, Abbe J.A Dubois,Missionary in Mysore “Letters on the State of Christianity in India”, FIRST PUBLISHED 1823.

ALCOHOLISM, DRUG ABUSE & CORRUPTION : NON-NATIVE TRAITS , BUT IMBIBED THROUGH EUROPEAN CONTACTS !!!!

Indians were not corrupt to the extent British & Marxist Historians made the general public believe. In fact the moral and material standards of Indians, were much higher than that of Europeans. The

following account by Abbe J A Dubois, vividly describes how Indians were made corrupt, while coming into contact with Europeans. The Abbe is very candid, that contacts with Europeans did not benefit Indians. On the other hand he insists that it DESTROYED their MORAL & MATERIAL well-being. 

Quote “It is, I believe, generally admitted, that the invasions and conquests which the Europeans, prompted by avarice and an unextinguishable thirst of dominion, have not ceased to make in the old and new world during the last three or four centuries, have, in most cases, proved rather a curse than a blessing, and have, on the whole, produced more evil than good. Not to speak of the flood of blood through which those conquests were made, and the European dominions established, the invaders, among many other evils, have supplied the savages with fermented poisonous liquors, with the use of which they were formerly unacquainted, arid which have increased their natural ferocity to a considerable extent.

They are become the general carriers, and almost the exclusive monopolists of that poisonous drug called opium, whose effects are to produce complete madness ; and from an insatiable thirst for gain, they have shamelessly smuggled that poison all over Asia; in open violation of the wise prohibitions of the rulers of several countries to prevent so pernicious an article from being introduced into the states under their sway. They have had the horrid distinction of teaching the half, civilized people their infernal system of warfare, and supplied them with the most destructive kind of weapons, the more effectually to destroy each other. They have, in general, by their bad examples, polluted their minds, and vitiated the simplicity of their manners. They have poisoned their bodies by loathsome and incurable diseases, till then unknown to them; but, perhaps, with, a few exceptions, they have to this day operated no material improvement in their morals or religion; on which points, the conquered are found to be, at present, rather in a worse condition than they were when their fierce invaders, stepping .over the immense barriers by which nature seemed to have separated them for ever, and violating their territories and their natural rights, made their first appearance among them.”

All Excerpts From
Jean Antoine Dubois. “Letters on the State of Christianity in India: In which the Conversion of the Hindoos is ...” Longman, Hurst, Rees , Orme, Brown and Green, 1823. iBooks. ( pages 107-8 of 198, Print pages 116, 117)

BREAKING UP FAMILIES – PERMITTED AS PER CHRISTIAN BELIEFS !!!???- CASTE & THE MISSIONARY

I am sure all friends will agree with me that the family has got precedence over the individual. It is our experience that we are readily willing to deal with a individual whose whereabouts ie family background are known, whereas we hesitate to deal with individuals whose family background are not known, or if he belongs to a family of disrepute. Thus we give much importance to family. Even in the case of arranged -marriage, family antecedents are carefully gathered. In the Mahabharatha, it is clearly told that a individual may be abandoned for the sake of the family, and a family for the sake of a village, and a village for the sake of the Kingdom. Here also the family is more important than the individual. Thus family constitutes the most elementary unit which gives strength to a caste/community/nation.

And at some point of time in the past, among the members of the Hindu community in Kerala, INDIVIDUALISM took over. It is reflected in the novel Nalukettu (1958) of M.T.Vasudevan Nair, which got Kerala Sahitya Akademi Award in 1959.Though fictional, could MT have fully assessed the travails of the Karanavar,(family patriarch)  due to British policies & governance ? How did this individualistic tendency come about? Did it creep into the Hindu psyche through the education they received, Western style and mostly run by Church institutions. !!?? If we read Missionary narratives, we see concerted attempts by them to rupture and tear our existing social fabric, by targeting our robust family system. Within and without, individuals were instigated to disregard traditional family & social relationships as well as values, and to disobey and disrespect the family as well as community head/leaders. Agricultural labourers were instigated not to work on Sundays. Such subversive tactics by Missionaries encouraging open rebelliousness against customary heads with the tacit support of the British Govt, ultimately led to the collapse of the joint-family.(One of the main reasons)  We had grown up seeing dysfunctional joint-families, but never cared to unravel how this state of affairs came to be. One beneficiary of this outcome was the Communist Party in Kerala.

Now here we see a Lady Missionary in action while dearly clinging on to the words of Jesus Christ and putting IT into effective use at the same time assuaging her guilty feelings. She is using Christ’s words as a battering ram to break-up families, and also justifying her actions. Though her actions were the means employed at getting converts, she(and people like her) did not fully succeed in it, but was able to spread such negative values making individualism acceptable in society. The result Hindu families became weak and got atomized and caste cohesiveness suffered. Except for the SNDP, whose members are becoming more organized,(and becoming militant) no other community is even reckoned in the politics of Kerala.They have become very weak in all aspects.

Given below is the Missionary justifications, in breaking-up (trying to)  traditional Hindu families.

Missionary Quote : “ The second objection is, "Why break up families by insisting on baptism as a sine quâ non of discipleship?"
And again we answer, Because we believe our Master tells us to. He said, "Baptising them in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." (Mathew 29:19) What right have we, His servants, to stop short of full obedience? Did He not know the conditions of high-caste Hindu life in India when He gave this command? Was He ignorant of the breaking up of families which obedience to it would involve? "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you nay, but rather division." (Luke 12:51) And then come words which we have seen lived out literally in the case of every high-caste convert who has come. "For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law." These are truly awful verses; no one knows better than the missionary how awful they are. There are times when we can hardly bear the pain caused by the sight of this division. But are we more tender than the Tender One? Is our sympathy truer than His? Can we look up into His eyes and say, "It costs them too much, Lord; it costs us too much, to fully obey Thee in this"?
But granted the command holds, why should not the baptised convert return home and live there? Because he is not wanted there, as a Christian. Exceptions to this rule are rare (we are speaking of Caste Hindus), and can usually be explained by some extenuating circumstance.

The high-caste woman who said to us, "I cannot live here and break my Caste; if I break it I must go," spoke the truth. Keeping Caste includes within itself the observance of certain customs which by their very nature are idolatrous. Breaking Caste means breaking through these customs; and one who habitually disregarded and disobeyed rules, considered binding and authoritative by all the rest of the household, would not be tolerated in an orthodox Hindu home. It is not a question of persecution or death, or of wanting or not wanting to be there; it is a question of not being wanted there, unless, indeed, she will compromise. Compromise is the one open door back into the old home, and God only knows what it costs when the choice is made and that one door is shut.

This ever-recurring reiteration of the power and the bondage of Caste may seem almost wearisome, but the word, and what lies behind it, is the one great answer to a thousand questions, and so it comes again and again. In Southern India especially, and still more so in this little fraction of it, and in the adjoining kingdoms of Travancore and Cochin, Caste feeling is so strong that sometimes it is said that Caste is the religion of South India. But everywhere all over India it is, to every orthodox Hindu, part of his very self. Get his Caste out of him? Can you? You would have to drain him of his life-blood first.

It is the strength of this Caste spirit which in South India causes it to take the form of a determination to get the convert back……….”
 
All Excerpts From
Carmichael, Amy. “Things as They Are / Mission Work in Southern India.” iBooks. (pages 335-37 of 374)

CRIME , CASTE & CHRISTIAN EUROPE.

I  caution that some if not all might experience “COGNITIVE  DISSONANCE” after reading this posting. In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time, or is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values.(Wikipedia)

All along we had been taught that CASTE is an excrescence of Hindu India, and that the civilizing mission of the White-men & their religion, had extricated the masses from the dark depths to which they had sunk. With such propaganda, the gullible among  us are even now thinking that the ‘colonizers” had “SAVED” us by putting in place law & order, new social institutions, infrastructure  & DEMOCRACY, which we understand now are proving to be tenuous.

At one point of time, the men doing research on  crime in England, had toyed with the idea of introducing the CASTE SYSTEM  in Europe. Such was the effectiveness of Caste in maintaining a peaceful social order. Since it posed a barrier to conversion, the Missionaries started maligning that institution, and it was later on taken up by Leftists, Reformers, Ambedkarites etc. Daily in newspaper reports, we see condemnation of caste indirectly & directly.

The following passage from the book “Crime & Its Causes” is very informative.

Quote : “Those remarks of Sir William Hunter afford an insight into the coercive power exercised by the caste system on the Indian population. Without that system it is probable that the criminal statistics of India would present as high a proportion of crimes of violence and blood as now exists among the peoples of Southern Europe. But with that system in active operation, the evil influence of climate is completely neutralized and India at the present moment enjoys a remarkable immunity from violent crime. With the example of India before us we are justified in coming to the conclusion that homicide and crimes of a kindred nature need not necessarily be the malign products of climate. Whatever climate has to do with fostering these offences may be obviated by a better form of social organization. It would be ridiculous to dream of basing western society upon Indian models; but at the same time India teaches us a lesson on the construction of the social fabric which it would be well to learn. The tendency of western civilization at the present time is to herd vast masses of men into huge industrial centres. It is useless discussing the abstract question whether this is a good thing or a bad; we must reconcile ourselves to the fact that it is a process forced upon communities by the necessities of modern industrialism; and we must accordingly make the best of it. In our efforts to make the best of present tendencies, and to render them as innocuous as possible to social welfare, there is one point at least where India is able to teach us an instructive lesson. In India a man seldom becomes, what he too often is, in all our large cities, a mere lonely, isolated unit, left entirely to the mercy of his own impulses, constrained by no social circle of any description, and unsustained by the pressure of any public opinion for which he has the least regard. In India he is always a member of some fraternity within the community; in that fraternity or caste he feels at home; he is never isolated; he belongs to a circle which is not too big for his individuality to be lost; he is known; he has a reputation and a status to maintain; his life within the caste is shaped for him by caste usages and traditions, and for these he is taught to entertain the deepest reverence. Caste is in many of its aspects a state in miniature within the state; in this capacity it performs a variety of admirable functions of which the state itself is and must always remain incapable.”

All Excerpts From

William Douglas Morrison. “Crime and Its Causes.” iBooks. (Pages 56 -7of 231 )- First Published in 1891, by London Swan Sonnenschein & Co., LIM. New York: Charles Scribner’s Sons. William Douglas Morrison had worked in H.M.Prison, Wandsworth.

RELIGIONS, SECTS, DENOMINATIONS, SPLINTER GROUPS that come later are INTOLERANT OF THEIR ROOTS.

RELIGIONS, SECTS, DENOMINATIONS, SPLINTER GROUPS that come later are INTOLERANT OF THEIR ROOTS.

Why is this so? Is it because, those who come later think, they are smarter than their previous generations.??? There were corruption scandals in Catholic Churches!! Is Protestantism free of all the diseases afflicting Catholicism.?What explains the more than 1500 plus (Googling gives the figures as 33,000+) denominations , after Protestantism.? Problem with the intellect ? Here is a classic example from Missionary Literature, and the intolerance of PROTESTANTS towards CATHOLICS in Kerala soil. A Keralite should also bear in mind that such animosities BETWEEN THE NUMEROUS CASTES never existed in Kerala, during the same period. Such stories remain to be invented.

Quote : "“The question has been asked – Why do the disturbances which have arisen in connection with the spread of Protestant Christianity in Travancore not occur between Roman Catholics and heathens ? The reply seems to us obvious. There is, in the first place, less difference between Romanists and Hindus than between Protestants and Hindus. The Romanists are by no means so well instructed, either in scriptural or secular knowledge, as our people are. The native Romanists are admitted much more readily to baptism and communion with the church than are those who apply to us. In common with Hindus they practise image-worship, processions, and pompous ceremonies. They observe caste to some extent, and have often separate chapels for worshippers of different castes. Hence they do not excite the jealousy of other castes by rising in the scale of enlightenment and civilization, but have remained for nearly three hundred years stationary in these respects, while our converts have mostly escaped from the power of hard masters, and have in fifty or sixty years risen amazingly in character and position. Nor is there anything like the active converting agency at work amongst Roman Catholics that is carried on in our mission. Very few are added to their numbers from heathenism, which therefore has not much cause to fear them on this ground. The Romish congregations, too, are chiefly situated in the maritime districts, where they have existed for so long a time that they are looked on as a familiar and established class, and as an integral portion of the population.” Pages 275-6, Chapter XX,Establishment and Early History of the London Mission in Travancore., From the book “The Land of Charity” by Rev. Samuel Mateer of London Missionary Society. (First Pub.1870)

NEW BRAND OF CHRISTIANITY – INDIA IN GRAVE DANGER FROM FORCES DETRMINED TO DALITIZE INDIA !!!

Even at the cost of  being branded communal or Right-wing  and anticipating the negative prospects of being ostracized from ‘secular’ circles, if not already in that situation, I sincerely feel it is my duty to inform  of a grave danger, gnawing our Indian republic from within.

My morning walks has earned me quite a few friends. One such is a retired Professor from a very old and  reputed institution in the metro city where I am staying. Today morning (22/08/2014) I was trailing behind him  by about  hundred meters before I could catch up with him. I could see him ahead, conversing and walking along with another gentleman, who was his same age, but slow in his movement. Since the Prof. walks faster than anyone of his age, while observing the pair, I could see him breaking away from the other gentleman and forging ahead. Walking faster, it took me some time before I could overtake the relatively slower gentleman, and keep pace with the Prof.

I greeted him , and now we were walking together. The Prof. told me that he had been walking alongside his neighbor for quite some time, before breaking away from him. Then he told me about the content of his conversation with the Christian Pastor, his neighbor.

The Prof. had not seen his neighbor for quite some time.  Even I was noticing the other gentleman for the first time. I knew the house of the Prof. and had seen the occupants of his neighbouring houses. But this other gentleman I had not noticed before.

In reply to the query of the Prof. about his long absence, the Pastor told that he had been travelling extensively within India and abroad. His married daughter is now occupying the house , adjacent to the Prof’s house, and his son-in-law is the pastor of the New-Age Church at the end of the street. This church is on the way to my house, and I used to see the members of the small congregation. From their appearance, I could make out that culturally they belonged to the lowest strata of society.(These people may be the laggards in the Sanskritising process, or they would have migrated  to India at a much later period.The Sanskritising process is itself a slow process, and assimilation into it is also slow. Moreover by becoming Christian, they loose their roots, which is psychologically damaging)

The Pastor  had just returned from Bihar and he will be in the metro for some days with his daughter before moving on. He had gone to Bihar to inaugurate a welfare scheme there. It included training courses to handle computers, housed in a four-storey building , the total cost of the entire project being  Rupees Twentyfive Crores !!!

The pastor claimed that he had studied only upto tenth class (failed), but later worked as a pharmacist in Dubai, where he made his money. His son is also a pastor and ‘labours’ in Malayasia & Indonesia. The Sr.Pastor apprised the Prof. that he owns property worth Rs.200 Crores in India, of which Rs.50 crores is in the metro where I live. In addition he owns a good no of vehicles, and I had wondered about two very recent acquisitions – a new Tata Winger Passenger van and another new mid-segment car in the possession of his son-in-law.

To the Prof.’s surprise, without asking, the Pastor  outlined the aim of his mission/labor. As per his statistics, the Christian population in India is at present 10 percent. By 2025, he is confident  that through the ‘sustained labor’ of New Age Churches like his own, they will achieve the targeted conversion of 25 percent of the Indian population. They have got a organized and detailed plan for this effort, and have identified  the people  targeted for conversion.

Not only that , he said that it was a set-back to Christian groups like his, that Modi came to power. During the previous Govt. , with a very ‘tolerant’ Sonia at the helm, he said that the  operation of Christian Groups engaged in conversion were smooth, without any kind of hindrance. Now he has to tread with caution.

Now the crucial aspect of the conversation is this: The Pastor  had been to US after  Modi formed his Govt. He had met fellow  missionaries there who are close to some US Senators. The Pastor is optimistic based on  information gathered in the US that, soon Sonia will come back to power, and that too  before Modi completes his term in office. Is it the imagination of a fanatic Christian  about the invisible hand of Jesus Christ  acting against Modi, or is it that the Christian Groups will pressure the Obama Administration towards engineering dis-affection towards the Modi Govt by “some sections” of  the people of India and thereby remove him from saddle by hook or crook !!!??? The second option is likely  if the Modi Govt.  in any way hampers the free-operation of these Christian Groups engaged in conversion. The US Administration with the help of  CIA is notorious for its covert operations, in destabilizing other peaceful nations at the behest of pressure groups within & without.

The methods for gaining  Christian converts in India  is through subterfuge. This is a continuation of Christian policy from colonial times. It is not the victory earned after the end of a game played as per rules and fairly. From the so-called upper castes of Hindus, it is impossible to get converts. Even if any converts are gained from the upper-castes, they will be the ‘dregs’ of those communities. Detailed accounts  of  Missionary frustration in getting converts from the upper-castes , is available in plenty from the Missionary narratives of 19^th and early 20^th centuries.

Since Missionary machinations among the upper-castes  end up as a futile exercise, they are targeting the Dalits, who form approximately 16% of the Indian population. The first step is to create disaffection towards India, its religion and Culture, while sowing the seeds of hatred in Dalit minds towards the so-called upper Castes ( which includes even Christian & Muslim upper-caste). They are aided in this efforts by the Leftists(Marxists) , the Ambedkarites, and other Dalit organizations along with their versions of HISTORY. If one closely follows the statements and actions of these groups, it can be seen that  systematic & deliberate  efforts in effecting cleavages within Indian society are orchestrated.

The Pastor  is having access to at least Rs.200 Crores. How many Indians have access to such funds.? From his own accounts about association with Christian Groups abroad, especially US, we get  a fairly good idea, that this Rs 200 Crores and even more is not the result of the pastor’s sweat and blood. He has easy access to funds from abroad .This funds are sent here to  Destabilize(Dalitize) & Christianize India.

In this metro, the members of the community to which I belong(Nair), under very conservative estimate numbers to approx  60,000 to 70,000. We are planning to have a community centre here. The budgeted project cost is Rs.10 Crores. The community leaders are planning for this the past three years. But they find it impossible to raise this amount, because the members mostly belong to middle-income bracket. In contrast, men like the Pastor , with alien support  are capable of executing projects in far-away Bihar, worth 25 Crores. This kind of continuous access to huge and irresponsible funds is sure to upset the social balance. It does not augur well for the future of the Indian society.

Please also refer to the following three links :-

 http://msradha.blogspot.in/2014/05/sowing-seeds-of-hatred-in-dalit-minds.html 

http://msradha.blogspot.in/2014/05/channar-lahala-canard-spread.html

http://msradha.blogspot.in/2014/05/breast-cloth-controversy-three.html

Today's Paper

NEW DELHI, August 20, 2014

Give Modi a chance: church

Anita Joshua

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The Catholic Bishops Conference of India (CBCI) wants to give Prime Minister Narendra Modi a “chance” and not pre-judge him because of his record as the Gujarat Chief minister or his association with the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS).

A day after he met Mr. Modi in the capital, CBCI president Cardinal Baselios Cleemis on Tuesday said that the church preferred to take the Prime Minister’s call for a 10-year-moratorium on communalism seriously rather than the ‘Hindutva-subsumes-all-other-identities’ statement of RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat.

Anxiety

Admitting that Mr. Bhagwat’s statements did create anxiety, he said undue weightage should not be given to the personal opinion of one person.

Asked about the apprehensions about Mr. Modi in the past, his refrain was: “Mr. Modi has just begun his administration as the head of the government at the Centre.

“It is sensible and legitimate that any government needs time to settle down and work out its policies.

“He has been elected and we have to see his actions. We are optimistic.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/give-modi-a-chance-church/article6333168.ece 

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BRAHMINS – HOW THEIR EXEMPLARY CONDUCT SAVED INDIA FROM RELIGIOUS VIOLENCE !!!

The world is witnessing as well as experiencing the RELIGIOUS Violence that has engulfed the entire West Asia, which is the birthplace of the three “GREAT” historical Religions of the World.

India geographically is not that far away from West Asia, but historically Religious violence here was unheard of till it came into contact with Islam & Christianity. Here in India, we had experiences similar to that in W.Asia, -new off-shoots from Hinduism like Buddhism and Jainism trying to over-run the mother religion. But Indians in general & BRAHMINS in particular had been exceptionally wise in their RELIGIOUS attitude and conduct, in neutralizing the effects of these incomplete religions. Thus these new and ephemeral saplings pretending to be deep-rooted trees, withered by itself in course of time within India.

We get to know about the attitude of BRAHMINS towards

RELIGION & other castes from MISSIONARY narratives of the 19th century.(1800’s AD). Missionaries in providing these accounts were demonstrating the CUNNINGNESS of Brahmins as a class. But the impression we may gather is contrary. We find in these negative portrayals the ingenious conduct of Brahmins in matters related to Religion, and the intolerance and SUPERIORITY complex of the Missionary. Another detail that we understand is the EMPATHY shown by Brahmins towards the natives belonging to other castes. The Brahmins shared friendships with other castes and communities. Brahminical tyranny or Brahminical Hinduism, which the Leftists and Ambedkarities have invented, is completely absent in these Missionary narratives. 

One such narrative is provided here, and it is available in the public

domain. Here the Missionary has tried his level best and succeeded to a great extent in creating cleavage between Brahmins/Other Hindu Castes vis-a-vis Nadars(Shanars) of Tirunelveli District ,Tamilnadu. In the process, he had succeeded in wrenching away a sizable number of Nadars from Hinduism, through outright lies and misinformation campaigns. The Result -“The proportion of Christians in Tirunelveli is larger than any other province in India.” –Source Wikipedia. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tirunelveli

Quote from Bishop Robert Caldwell “I may here remark, that it is the peculiar policy of the Brahmans to render all the religious systems of India subservient to their purpose by making friends of them all. Brahmanism repudiates exclusiveness ; it incorporates all creeds, assimilates all, consecrates all. People are permitted to entertain any opinions they please, and to practise any ceremonies they please, provided only that the supremacy of the Vedas and of the Brahmans is acknowledged. When that acknowledgment has been duly made, the new heterodoxy becomes another new authoritative orthodoxy, especially revealed by the Supreme Being himself for the enlightenment and salvation of the particular class of people amongst whom it has become popular. Thus Brahmanism yields and conquers ; and hence, though the demon-worship of Tinnevelly is as far as possible repugnant to the genius of orthodox Hinduism, and was not only independent of it in origin, but, as I believe, long anterior to it, yet even it has received a place in the cunningly-devised mosaic of the Brahmans, and the devils have got themselves regarded as abnormal developments of the gods.”

Caldwell, Robert, 1814-1891. “Lectures on the Tinnevelly missions

: descriptive of the field, the work, and the results : with an introductory lecture on the progress of Christianity in India.” London : Bell & Daldy, 1857. iBooks (page 57 of 185)