Sunday, May 18, 2014

SAIVITES VS VAISHNAVITES - INTERNECINE CONFLICTS BETWEEN THEM !!!?????

How we imagine ourselves as a nation  matters !!!!

Through our History text-books taught in schools and colleges, we were made to believe that there was constant and bloody conflict between Saivites & Vaishnavites in India. Little did we realize that it was European History, grafted to Indian soil with modifications to suit the Indian imagination. In Europe bloody fights had erupted between Catholics & Protestants, though both believed in The Bible. Even now such war like situation exists in Northern Ireland. They, Europeans and their Indian compradors  wanted us to believe that we were equally or more violent, than European’s themselves, justifying their rule of this country. The wanted us to believe, they only brought forth order and peace in this country.

The following is an account by a Missionary, commissioned by the
 East India Company. (They had paid him.). He was eyeing India and its people critically, and could not help wondering about the tolerance of its people. He found it highly surprising a Saivaite wife
living with a Vaishnavite husband. From his experience of Europe, he found it unbelievable that such things could happen here.


The greatest tragedy is that our own  people believe that Saivaites  and Vaishnavaites, were at each other’s throat in the past,  and based on such misconception even artistic works are created which then creep into the popular imagination, and gets rooted as a historic fact. . Eg. The first song visuals in Kamal’s Dashavatharam movie.

 Even Saint Ramanuja’s hagiography suggests bad-blood between Saivaite King vs Vaishnavite Saint. The rift between the saint and the King, if ever it had happened would  not had been a carry-over of the Saivaite vs Vaishnavite  quarrel.

Read the following MISSIONARY ACCOUNT which throws clear light on the purported bloody conflict . It also provides information about the social situation existing then (1792-1823), and showing the absence of any CASTE DISCRIMINATION :-

“By the diksha the new member acquires a perpetual right to all the priveleges of the sect into which he has been admitted. Persons of all castes can become Vishnavites and after their admission can wear the namam or distinctive mark on their foreheads. Neither Pariahs or even Chucklers are excluded; and it has been noticed that the lower castes are particularly numerous in this sect.

I do not think there would be any greater difficulty in becoming a member of the Siva sect, but as on initiation the members undertake to entirely give up eating meat and drinking any intoxicating liquor, the lower castes, who do both unhesitatingly, find the conditions too hard. Consequently, only high-class Sudras and scarcely any Pariahs belong to this sect. It is no uncommon thing for people to change from one sect to the other, according as it suits there interest, or even out of spite or caprice. Either sect will take a convert from the other without asking any questions or making any difficulty. Sometimes one comes across missionaries scouring the country with written professions of faith in their hands, and using various means for gaining proselytes to their respective sects. In some parts a remarkable peculiarity is to be observed in reference to these two sects. Sometimes the husband is a Vishnavite and bears the namam on his forehead, while the wife is a follower of Siva and wears the lingam. The former eats meat, but the latter may not touch it.  This divergence of religious opinion, however , in no way destroys the peace of the household.  Each observes the practices of his or her own particular creed, and worships his or her god in the way that seems best, without any interference  from the other. At the same time, each sect tries its best to magnify its own particular deity and to belittle that of its rivals. The devotees of Vishnu declare that the preservation of the universe is entirely due to him, and that to him Siva owes both his birth  and existence, since Vishnu saved him several times under such circumstances that
without his aid Siva must infalliably have perished. Therefore Vishnu is immeasurably above Siva in every respect, and to him alone should homage be offered.
The devotees of Siva, on their side, maintain obstinately that Vishnu is of no account, and has never committed any but the basest actions, which only disgrace him and make him hateful in the eyes of men. As proofs of their assertions they point to several facts in the life of this deity, which their adversaries cannot deny, and which certainly do not redound to his credit. Siva, according to them, is sovereign lord of all, and therefore the proper object of all worship.

According to the Vaishnavaites it is the height of all abomination to wear the lingam. According to their antagonists, whoever is decorated with the namam will be tormented  in hell by a sort of fork similar in form to this emblem. These mutual recriminations often end in violent altercations and riots. The numerous bands of religious  mendicants of both sects  are specially apt to provoke strife. One may sometimes see these fanatics collected together in crowds to support their opinion of the super excellence of their respective doctrines. They will overwhelm  each other with torrents of abuse and obscene insults, and pour forth blasphemies and imprecations, on one side against Siva, on the other against Vishnu: and finally they will come to blows. Fortunately blood is seldom shed on these battle-fields. They content themselves with dealing each other buffets with their fists, knocking off each other’s turbans, and much tearing of garments. Having thus given  vent to their feelings, the combatants separate by mutual consent.

That these religious dissensions do not set the whole country ablaze, or occasion those crimes of all kinds which were for centuries the result of religious fanaticism in Europe and elsewhere, is due no doubt to the naturally mild and timid character of the Hindus, and especially to the fact that the greater number compound with their consciences and pay equal honour to Vishnu and Siva.  Being thus free from any bias towards either party, the latter serve as arbitrators  in these religious  combats, and often check incipient quarrels.

There is no doubt, however, that these controversies were wont to excite general ferment in several provinces at no very remote date.
(See the speculation here by the Missionary. Such doubts expressed will later become  events in History. The paragraphs ahead contradicts his own gussess) The agitation  excited in the first instance by fanatical devotees, was further fomented by the Rajahs and other princes, who became Vaishnavites or Saivaites according as it suited their political interests.

Those  who are acquainted  with the character and disposition of the Bairagis  and Goshais of the north, and of the Dasari, Andis, Jangamas, and Pandarams in the south, are fully persuaded that it would still be quite easy for two ambitious and hostile princes to arm those fanatics and persuade them to come to blows if they raised the standard of Basava (the bull) on one side, and of Hanumanta (the monkey) on the other.

In these religious squabbles, which still take place occasionally, the Vishnavites appear to be the more fanatical and fervent, and they are almost always the aggressors. The reason is, that this sect draws most of its members from the very dregs of society, and so takes a delight in creating  troubles or disturbances. The followers of Siva, on the other hand, who belong to the upper classes of the Sudras, are much more peaceable and tolerant. (Kamalahassan’s Dasavatharam thus gives wrong ideas to the people. In the movie the Saivite King is the tormentor)

The majority of the Hindus, and particularly the Brahmins, take no part whatever in these religious squabbles. The latter act on the principle of paying equal honour to the two chief deities of the country, and though, as a rule, they appear to have a preference for Vishnu, they never let a day pass without offering in their own houses  a sacrifice to the lingam, which is Siva’s emblem.”

(Pages 118 to 121, Chapter IX – The different Hindu Sects-, Book – Hindu Manners Customs and Ceremonies  by Abbe.J.A.Dubois. Dubois, a Christian  Missionary, who labored for THIRTY-ONE YEARS in India.He was in India from 1792 to 1823.)

Read also ,about  RELIGION (sub-heading)  in 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chola_dynasty


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasavathaaram#cite_note-42
Quote "Kamal Haasan came up with an original storyline and approached a number of directors, to direct it, when K. S. Ravikumar accepted the offer."

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/may-08-01/dasavatharam-07-05-08.html

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/may-08-01/dasavatharam-02-05-08.html

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